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What was Jeep thinkin'?!?

Postby Wrench » Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:13 pm

So I actually got to measuring my Waggy axles today. They are from a '91 Grand Wagoneer (for reference), Dana 44's, driver-drop front.

The front axle measures 60.5" wms-wms.
The rear axle measures about 58.8" wms-wms.

Why the ~2" difference? I looked it up, and this is the way they were from '76-'91 in the Waggy's.

The stock Cherokee axles are 60" wms-wms. Is the notorius Cherokee 44 60"? Or was it the same width as the Waggy rear?
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Postby 79chevy39.5's » Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:02 pm

Manufacturers typically make front wider than rear. Helps in the cornering or something
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Postby Roman » Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:26 pm

Nothing "notorious" about Cherokee axles. NT Cherokee's are the same as Waggys. WT Cherokees are 65" front, rear is probably a little narrower than 65".

If you are wanting exactly 60" in a D44 flavor look for a 96-97 Isuzu Rodeo rear. 60" wide, 6 lug and disc brakes w/ e-brake
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Postby OldGreen » Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:58 pm

XJ and TJ Dana 44s are 60".....

SJ Cherokee is the same as SJ Waggy.
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Postby Roman » Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:30 pm

OH, Paul you probably meant the XJ D44... I was thinking the FSJ Cherokee
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Postby spaz_22 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:01 pm

they make the front end wider then the back to correct understeer. Understeer is were the back wants to push the front through corners.
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Postby Wrench » Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:09 am

I like the understeer correction idea, if it really is effective. I just dont like the fact that I am already tight on clearance for my shocks between the top of the tire at full flex and the "frame" rails in the XJ. :down
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Postby 79chevy39.5's » Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:41 am

a lot of the real serious snow guys make thier tracks the exact same by using some spacers or what ever
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Postby OldGreen » Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:59 am

Wrench wrote:I like the understeer correction idea, if it really is effective. I just dont like the fact that I am already tight on clearance for my shocks between the top of the tire at full flex and the "frame" rails in the XJ. :down


100% agree.

Also, understeer thing isn't really an issue with a locked rear end.
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Postby Wrench » Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:27 pm

OldGreen wrote:
100% agree.

Also, understeer thing isn't really an issue with a locked rear end.


:quoi

I thought understeer gets worse with a locked rear.
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Postby OldGreen » Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:37 pm

Wrench wrote:
OldGreen wrote:
100% agree.

Also, understeer thing isn't really an issue with a locked rear end.


:quoi

I thought understeer gets worse with a locked rear.


Right....meaning that the staggered track is no longer an issue.
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