Black mall crawler 90% bolt on build.
Update: The Jeep worked pretty dang good this past weekend. The Antirock is great. Liked the no disconnecting and less body roll on sidehills.
I have a small driveshaft vibration going up steep hills. Turns out my pinion angle is set a little too high. Add to that my cheapo, too soft, saggy Rusty's rear springs added to the problem. They settled about 2 inches, and they did not like a bag of tools, a bag of recovery gear, and a passenger in the back.
So, I ordered a set of rear Currie 3" HD progressive springs. Hope that fixes that.
But today I spent a whopping $5 making a 3rd brakelight to stay legal. My Bestop tire carrier came with a bracket for mounting the stock 3rd brakelight behemoth, but that would of meant drilling more new holes in my tailgate. Not to mention, I've always hated the stock one. One $5 led clearance light, one center cap from the spare tire, and problem solved. I cut the end off of the center cap. I reused the stock wire and put some quick connects inside the center cap. Sorry, more crappy cell phone pics.
I have a small driveshaft vibration going up steep hills. Turns out my pinion angle is set a little too high. Add to that my cheapo, too soft, saggy Rusty's rear springs added to the problem. They settled about 2 inches, and they did not like a bag of tools, a bag of recovery gear, and a passenger in the back.
So, I ordered a set of rear Currie 3" HD progressive springs. Hope that fixes that.
But today I spent a whopping $5 making a 3rd brakelight to stay legal. My Bestop tire carrier came with a bracket for mounting the stock 3rd brakelight behemoth, but that would of meant drilling more new holes in my tailgate. Not to mention, I've always hated the stock one. One $5 led clearance light, one center cap from the spare tire, and problem solved. I cut the end off of the center cap. I reused the stock wire and put some quick connects inside the center cap. Sorry, more crappy cell phone pics.
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Another update. Before we went to Liberty a couple weeks ago, I re-adjusted the rear upper and lower control arms and pinion angle to eliminate the driveline vibes I had on uphill climbs. It worked...... smooth as a baby's .
I also swapped out the rear 3" Rusty's springs for some 3" Currie Progressive rate HD springs. Much better also.
Also at Liberty, I messed up my cheapo Smittybilt winch towing a log to camp with it. Tim hooked me up with a used winch he had.
This morning, I mounted it on the Heep, replaced the battery cables, and hooked up my in-cab switch to it.
I also swapped out the rear 3" Rusty's springs for some 3" Currie Progressive rate HD springs. Much better also.
Also at Liberty, I messed up my cheapo Smittybilt winch towing a log to camp with it. Tim hooked me up with a used winch he had.
This morning, I mounted it on the Heep, replaced the battery cables, and hooked up my in-cab switch to it.
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My passenger front fender has taken too many hits this wheeling season, and is pretty bent and sad looking. I have been looking at the MCE Flatty fenders for some time. But, they provided no tire coverage past the tub. Too much tire sticking out for me. I wanted at least what my stock flares covered. They just came out with a flared version of their flexible flatty fenders. They are made out of a new TPO plastic material with a lifetime replacement warranty against any trail damage/cracks/breakage. The set cost less than half of what a single replacement stock fender would run. Then add prep, painting, etc. So, I got them. Mike from MCE (Modern Classic Enterprises) is a great guy to deal with. I had a question and left a message. He called me right back and we BS'd for a while and he answered all of my questions. Anyway, I started cutting today. The picks of the fenders are just pre-fit shots. They are not bolted on yet, or fine tuned to be perfectly straight. I'll post those later. The turn signals will be JK housings just under the headlights. Got them for $12 each and the stock TJ fender light hardware/wires are plug and play. I will cut those in this weekend. What do you think?
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- mattawajeep
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Looks good. I really like those flares, and have been tempted to get some since they came out. Just a bit worried about getting pulled over for having the tires sticking out to far - I drive my jeep around on actual roads too much. Let us know if you get a ticket.
ETA: Just checked their site, looks like a 6' flare is in the works, probably not as good looking, but...
ETA: Just checked their site, looks like a 6' flare is in the works, probably not as good looking, but...
Wrench wrote:What about the turn signals you lost?
TJDave wrote:The turn signals will be JK housings just under the headlights. Got them for $12 each and the stock TJ fender light hardware/wires are plug and play. I will cut those in this weekend.
I just like to look at the pretty pictures too
Yep, I've wheeled one of those, too...
Mildly depressed for not making the snow run today, I decided to tackle a quick task I have been putting off on the Black Mall Crawler.
Operation Anti-Leveling.
When I did all the above junk to the Jeep, I wanted it to sit level. In haste, I hacked my old BB spacer to 2" and threw them on top of the front springs.
Nice and level. Then, I put the gas tank back in, fuel, tools, recovery gear, etc. etc. Then the new rear springs settled a bit. Doh! I wish I was smarter when it came to this stuff.
So out came the 2" and in went a .75" spacer.
Better?
Operation Anti-Leveling.
When I did all the above junk to the Jeep, I wanted it to sit level. In haste, I hacked my old BB spacer to 2" and threw them on top of the front springs.
Nice and level. Then, I put the gas tank back in, fuel, tools, recovery gear, etc. etc. Then the new rear springs settled a bit. Doh! I wish I was smarter when it came to this stuff.
So out came the 2" and in went a .75" spacer.
Better?
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Let us know if it effects engine temps. I'm sure it will do a lot for underhood temps... TJs like to get hot.
Have you noticed a difference on the JK coolant temperature Lance?
Have you noticed a difference on the JK coolant temperature Lance?
Okay, we're a little crazy to have a Duramax for a daily driver. But if we go off our meds, we might wind up in a Prius.
If you want to hear God laugh, tell Him your plans.
N7EEL WROD249
If you want to hear God laugh, tell Him your plans.
N7EEL WROD249
- mattawajeep
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Hey Dave, any reason you went with the poly outboard shock kit?
After I rotate the rear axle on mine to account for the belly up skid I think I'm going to be forced to do the same mods. Spring mount is going to be moved, and I guess I might as well move the shocks out as well.
The poly kit is just danged expensive. I've seen quite a few of these mods done using cheapo 3/4 ton ford shock mounts, but the mounts are a bit narrower. I'm wondering if there are any cheaper alternatives that you might have run across.
I'm thinking that there has to be a wider, cheap shock mount out there that I can fit into the frame.
After I rotate the rear axle on mine to account for the belly up skid I think I'm going to be forced to do the same mods. Spring mount is going to be moved, and I guess I might as well move the shocks out as well.
The poly kit is just danged expensive. I've seen quite a few of these mods done using cheapo 3/4 ton ford shock mounts, but the mounts are a bit narrower. I'm wondering if there are any cheaper alternatives that you might have run across.
I'm thinking that there has to be a wider, cheap shock mount out there that I can fit into the frame.
I went with the Poly kit because that is what Larry recommended. I bought my rear axle from him, and it already had the lower mounts on it. They also look beefier than the Ferd towers, but I've never held a Ferd tower in my hand so I'm not totally sure. I think as this mod becomes more popular, there are now more kits out there that are not as expensive. Gen Right is now making one.
So the Poly kit I bought came with frame and the boxed axle mounts. I still have a set of unused lower mounts I would make you a great deal on if you decide to go with the Ford towers or buy some other upper mounts only.
So the Poly kit I bought came with frame and the boxed axle mounts. I still have a set of unused lower mounts I would make you a great deal on if you decide to go with the Ford towers or buy some other upper mounts only.
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- mattawajeep
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TJDave wrote:I went with the Poly kit because that is what Larry recommended. I bought my rear axle from him, and it already had the lower mounts on it. They also look beefier than the Ferd towers, but I've never held a Ferd tower in my hand so I'm not totally sure. I think as this mod becomes more popular, there are now more kits out there that are not as expensive. Gen Right is now making one.
So the Poly kit I bought came with frame and the boxed axle mounts. I still have a set of unused lower mounts I would make you a great deal on if you decide to go with the Ford towers or buy some other upper mounts only.
Ooh, I'm definitely interested in the lower mounts, as those look like more of a pain to fab than the uppers, and the poly ones look nice and strong.
I'll take a look at Gen Right. If I can't find cheaper uppers I'm really thinking hard about just making my own out of some heavy flat stock.
Found something you may be interested in. A bit longer than mine, and too long for our TJ application, but you can cut the unused portion off. Then pick up my lower mounts and you have a nice sturdy outboard set up.
http://davescustoms4wd.com/mm5/merchant ... Code=SHOCK
http://davescustoms4wd.com/mm5/merchant ... Code=SHOCK
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- mattawajeep
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TJDave wrote:Found something you may be interested in. A bit longer than mine, and too long for our TJ application, but you can cut the unused portion off. Then pick up my lower mounts and you have a nice sturdy outboard set up.
http://davescustoms4wd.com/mm5/merchant ... Code=SHOCK
Yeah, those are much simpler and certainly cheaper. I have the steel just lying around to build a set like that, though I'd have to cut the pieces and weld it up.
Anyone have any thoughts on if I'll have any strength issues with welded instead of bent pieces?
Dave, could you PM me your phone #. I think I'll be in tri-cities next week sometime and I'd like to buy those lower mounts from you.
In the 9 years I've had my TJ and the last 7 that I've had it offroad, I have yet to get a coolant temp over 200 degrees.
Then again I'm crazy about flushing the coolant every 30,000 miles.
Then again I'm crazy about flushing the coolant every 30,000 miles.
2004 TJ Wrangler X (Rubiclone)
2.5" OME Lift, 1.25 in Body Lift, Flat Fender Flares
35x12.50x15 Maxxis Razor MTs
D30 ARB 4.56s Rear JKD44 w/ 8.8 disk brakes Ford 9" goodies, 4.56 and ARB.
2.5" OME Lift, 1.25 in Body Lift, Flat Fender Flares
35x12.50x15 Maxxis Razor MTs
D30 ARB 4.56s Rear JKD44 w/ 8.8 disk brakes Ford 9" goodies, 4.56 and ARB.
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iaccocca wrote:Let us know if it effects engine Have you noticed a difference on the JK coolant temperature Lance?
Yes sir dropped 10 degres when playin' hard...
Lance
Building a capable off roader is easy, building a street legal one that you can wheel and then drive daily is the challenge...
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Building a capable off roader is easy, building a street legal one that you can wheel and then drive daily is the challenge...
2007 JKU, 7" RK lift, 40s, ARBs, 5.38s, Headers, Fox Coilovers, etc. http://www.Livin4Today.com
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