1950 Willy's Pickup

[mattawawillys]

Just picked this up today Got it for $1000 in Waitsburg. Im going to go take a picture of the engine and post it, pretty sure its a ford flathead V8.

[mattawajeep]

Thanks to LiftedZuki for the intel - it was pretty well hidden. Gonna get it all cleaned up and then start the disassembly. I'm hoping the body will be as easy to remove as a CJ.

[TJDave]

That's cool. Looks like a fun project.

[Grumpy]

I learned to drive in one of them things! F-head 4 banger with a 3 spd. That spare that's on it used to be the mud tire down home when I was a kid. Firestone musta sold a sqillion of 'em...

[LiftedZuki]

It is a flathead ford 8n in it.

It's one of the rigs I know of, I planned on picking up, don't need though so I resisted to.

It's pretty solid, has factory over drive too.

[79chevy39.5's]

love the truck willys pickups are my favorite period......cant wait to see this one done my dad has a 55 that would have been this color stock thats spring over and on 35's! good luck

[79chevy39.5's]

factory overdrive? pretty sure thats only a warn unit pretty much.....maybe a dealer install but dont think factory

[tenikiwon2]

Jelous!

[LiftedZuki]

factory overdrive? pretty sure thats only a warn unit pretty much.....maybe a dealer install but dont think factory

Honestly can't say. I don't believe it says Warn. Think it says Saturn.

Not really into old Willy's or Jeeps. Do like the OLD old, Jeeps/Willy's though.

[White trash]

Saturn was the original, warn bought them out just like bellvue winch co.

[79chevy39.5's]

doh....didnt even think of saturn till you said something once again bow down to the trash

[LiftedZuki]

Saturn was the original, warn bought them out just like bellvue winch co.

Yep I remember after you said that. I looked into it a bit when I bout bought it for a restore/pavement pounder "offroadish" look.

Didn't know about the Bellvue Winch Co though. Before my time.

[Beep Beep]

Nice old truck!

[White trash]

Didn't know about the Bellvue Winch Co though. Before my time.

Very little wasn't before your time.

[LiftedZuki]

Any updates?

[mattawajeep]

Any updates?

It's been mostly gutted. My brother is currently stuck, as some of the bolts holding the bed to the frame are stripped, rusted ect... and need to be cut out. When I have more time I'll probably grab a torch from the shop, or buy one. However, we have found some axles. Apparently, the neighbor across the road has a wagoneer with dana 44's behind his shop that he's parting out. He offered to just give them to us.

I'll bug my brother to get on here and post some pictures, there was all kinds of interesting things hidden in various storage compartments.

[iaccocca]

Find out what transfer case the Waggy has. Might be important.

[Grumpy]

Unless the t-case in the truck is offset the right direction, you're not gonna want the rear out of that Waggy if it has Q-Trac in it. Diff isn't centered...

[White trash]

Dave take your meds.. That willy's has a spicer 18 so it does need a waggy rear that had a quadracrap t case in front of it. I think you were thinking right it just didn't come out right.

[mattawajeep]

Dave take your meds.. That willy's has a spicer 18 so it does need a waggy rear that had a quadracrap t case in front of it. I think you were thinking right it just didn't come out right.

Ok, I'm confused. Are you saying that I'm going to want both the transfer case and rear axle out of the wagoneer? Is the 18 a bad transfercase? I was under the impression it was quite sturdy but I'm new to all this stuff. Of course, if it's not compatible with anything I can understand it needing to go away.

Yes, the willy's does have a dana 18 and funny looking centered timken rear axle.

[White trash]

I'd never recomend the quadracrap to anyone but twin city scrap metals...

If the cherokee has a quadracrap you're in luck as the rear axle will already be offset properly for your application. That was the jist of my comment.

[iaccocca]

I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong, but here it goes... If the Waggy has a Quadratrac (full-time) transfer case, the axles will work fine. If not, it probably has a Dana 20t-case and you'll want that. Jose, WT and others know better than I and they will post up.

[White trash]

I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong, but here it goes... If the Waggy has a Quadratrac (full-time) transfer case, the axles will work fine. If not, it probably has a Dana 20t-case and you'll want that. Jose, WT and others know better than I and they will post up.

Yup, thats it.

[bobracing]

All waggys of that era came with quadratrac and driver side offset axles, the Cherokee (mostly widetracs) could come with the D20.
The big thing will be small bearing hubs with flattop knuckles (thru '77) or the big bearing hubs without flattops ('78 and up).

Yes, that rig will have the offset D18 because of the OD has to have someplace to bolt into. The D18 should work just fine for that engine's power.

WT you sure on the OD? Thought Warn was the original, then Husky made a copy of it (seams like there was another one too but can come up it) and finally Advanced Adapters bought the Warn OD and started producing it under the Saturn name with a few updates.

[White trash]

All waggys of that era came with quadratrac and driver side offset axles, the Cherokee (mostly widetracs) could come with the D20.
The big thing will be small bearing hubs with flattop knuckles (thru '77) or the big bearing hubs without flattops ('78 and up).

Yes, that rig will have the offset D18 because of the OD has to have someplace to bolt into. The D18 should work just fine for that engine's power.

WT you sure on the OD? Thought Warn was the original, then Husky made a copy of it (seams like there was another one too but can come up it) and finally Advanced Adapters bought the Warn OD and started producing it under the Saturn name with a few updates.

Quadracraps are passenger drop not driver... The driver front diff rigs have 208's with them if'n I remember correctly. Now that you bring it up I think you're right, I got the OD history tweaked and the warn is the first then saturn by AA. I've never heard of the other one that I know of.