Old and Busted the way to go, first post

[White trash]

haha that also works. me and hard a dont get along very well

Good to hear, keep it that way till you're 21.

[Zach ogle]

haha yeah, so where can i find a cage, which is better a exo cage or a inner

[Reco Very]

haha that also works. me and hard a dont get along very well

It's all in the training....

[White trash]

haha yeah, so where can i find a cage, which is better a exo cage or a inner

Try looking back a few pages..


Personally I'll take a hybrid. Inners take up a bit of room in an already tight cab and exo's get caught on trees and rocks in the PNW..

[Zach ogle]

but beer is way better

[White trash]

but beer is way better

You have a lot to learn young one...

[Zach ogle]

uhhhh. hybrid like yours??????

[White trash]

You'll see when I get mine done again.. Internal and external with a full cab to boot.

[Zach ogle]

do you do all the pipe bending and stuff yourself

[White trash]

If I had a bender I would but I have buddies with benders so it is a collaborated effort.

[Zach ogle]

oh i see, is it pretty expensive????

[White trash]

What the tubing? It can be depending on what you build it out of. The bender is upwards of $400 plus that I don't have.

[Zach ogle]

yeah that kinda sucks, how much did all of your tubing cost???

[White trash]

The main cage was just over $300 and the rest of the tubing added to it was about $200. Well worth it, we lived to tell the tale.

[Zach ogle]

dang thats not to bad, but i like driving mine down the street, is it to uncomfrontable when you do drive ahhaha

[White trash]

Not at all. I've had a couple different in cab cages and neither was all that annoying because they both had padding on them.

[Zach ogle]

haha dang your getting me interested now!!!!

[White trash]

Good, a strong well engineered cage should be the first modification to any wheeling rig. It isn't fun but it is survival.

[Zach ogle]

bad thing tho, i dont have a bender or dont know anyone with one

[Zach ogle]

so if i get a cage, then we'll talk about a SAS???

[White trash]

so if i get a cage, then we'll talk about a SAS???

Yes

[sams88]

There's a couple guys around that do good work on tube bending. I've got a friend that has a bender. The stuff takes time though unless you have one of the high dollar hydraulic suckers. And it's easy to miscalculate and screw up part of a stick. But that's how one learns.

Thing to keep in mind on it all is that you can't have stuff sticking out over 4" in this state. So if you are building an exocage you want to keep it snug to keep the staters happy. Those tickets add up. Which is another pointer to you. Build the thing and keep the laws in mind. Saves a lot of hassles with the cops. Just do the good mud flaps from the beginning too. Make them so you can remove them for wheeling and then put them back on for the road. They love handing out tickets for lack of adequate flaps. Another on is the noise thing. Nothing says you can't have a flowmaster, just don't go for the loud sucker, get one of the quieter series. And Toyota's came with doors, so ya gotta have doors. You want them in the crappy weather anyways. But it's nice to build a custom set of doors that a lot of guys do, like half doors, re-inforced with tubing. Nice and strong, yet they give you good visiibility for playing in the rocks. You can play by the rules and have a lot of fun playing and keep a clear drivers license, or you can play like a punk and end up not driving cause your license got pulled for too many points agains it. Being cool ISN'T sitting on your butt watching the other guys driving their wheelers.

The SAS takes a lot of parts to do it correctly. Buy a kit for doing it, or else buy the parts seperately if you have someone that knows what they are doing. There's extra stuff there, like hi-steer, shock hoops, shocks, extended hydraulic lines, a long flex front drive shaft, spring kit, axle housing reinforcement, etc. Not a rough thing to put on, just takes some time and a bit of welding.

It's a fun hobby though, and you'll meet a lot of good people (a few others too) but by and large it's a pretty close knit group of folks that are pretty good about helping each other out.

[Zach ogle]

yeah i was looking at one of those kits, there spendy but i know it'll be worth it down the road. And since trashy is so persistant on me getting a cage... then i better get one. hahah

[White trash]

I'll be doing another solid axle swap in the next month or so if you'd like to check out what it takes to do it. I have never bothered to buy a kit as I'd just end up cutting it apart and rebuilding most of it anyway.

Another thing to keep in mind for the future is to keep it low. Not only does it make bumper height laws etc easier to abide by but it makes for a far more stable rig offroad. Trust me, I did the big dumb monster truck thing for a long time till I really started to wheel then I decided a lowrider was a better idea.



We'll be out in the shop all day if you want to swing by and check out my pile.

[Zach ogle]

yeah ill definitly come out and check it out, how much does it usually cost do to a SAS since you dont buy a kit. and how long does it take you.. do you know when your gonna start on it?