States Warm to ATV's to Drive Tourism
Text .By SIMMI AUJLA
In May, Michigan's Roscommon County made it legal to drive all-terrain vehicles on the shoulders of county roads. A few weeks later, Patrick Driscoll bought a new $9,900 ATV to ride around Roscommon's back country -- exactly the kind of response county commissioners had in mind.
.Local officials across the country are trying to develop ATV tourism in an effort to boost their economies. The vehicles, long regarded by conservationists as loud, dangerous and destructive to the natural landscape, now seem like a promising new source of revenue.
The Consumer Product Safety Commission estimates that 9.5 million four-wheel ATVs were in use nationwide in 2007. That's nearly double the 4.8 million it estimated in 2001.
Some public officials see ATV tourism's economic potential as akin to that of snowmobiling, which has, by some estimates, generated billions in annual vehicle sales and tourism revenue. A study of one of the biggest ATV trail networks, West Virginia's Hatfield-McCoy system, found that consumers spent $7.7 million for lodging, permits, meals, machine repairs and fuel while visiting in 2005. A spokesman for the trail network estimated that figure is now about $10 million a year.
Mr. Driscoll, a robotics engineer who lives in a suburb of Detroit, said he had been considering buying his first ATV for a while. The county's new law sealed the deal. If he had driven the ATV onto county roads before May, he would have faced a $135 fine.
"We put over 60 miles on it in the first weekend," he said. "I can just throw my helmet on and drive down the road to the trails."
Now local officials in states including Michigan, Maine, Vermont and New York are extending trail networks, building new systems for ATVs and other off-road vehicles, and making routes more accessible.
Towns that can connect ATV trails to main thoroughfares and local businesses will be able to reap economic benefits, said Brian Hawthorne, the public-lands policy director for the Blue Ribbon Coalition, an Idaho-based advocacy group for off-road vehicle users.
In the past year, 36 counties in northern Michigan began to allow people to drive off-road vehicles on the sides of all county roads. That makes it easier for ATV riders to access trails, grocery stores, restaurants and gas stations.
The new laws appear to have encouraged ATV usage. From March through June, the state issued 112,954 permits for off-road vehicles, up from 99,819 over the same period last year.
Local officials in other states are also trying to lure riders of ATVs, off-road dirt bikes and dune buggies. In upstate New York, Lewis County recently cleared several forested trails, started selling permits to pay for off-road trail expansions and hosted a fund-raising event to add to the kitty.
Fans say that ATVs -- usually one- or two-seat vehicles that can hit 65 miles per hour -- provide fun and access to remote parts of the country. Critics say that their loud motors shatter tranquility, and that their wheels tear up the ground and plants.
In Vermont, ATVs are banned from public land, but the state's Agency of Natural Resources proposed a rule in May that could lift the ban. It would create a process for vetting an ATV club's proposal for trails on state property that would connect with those on private land. Rogue ATV riders have long created their own paths, damaging land in the process.
Residents opposed to the proposal have sent hundreds of letters and emails to the agency. George Longenecker, a professor who lives in Marshfield, Vt., protested in a letter to his local newspaper. Mr. Longenecker said ATVs damage land and are excessively noisy and more destructive than the snowmobiles that pass by his property in the winter. The costs of enforcing the rule would outweigh any gains, he said, adding, "We don't have money in Vermont right now for that."
Back in Michigan, some businesses are already seeing a return from the new ATV policy. Kurtis Norton, the owner of two hardware stores in Roscommon County, said sales at one of his stores were up more than $2,000 in June -- a 4.5% increase over last year -- as more travelers visit from southern Michigan.
"We're trying to do whatever we can to help our businesses," said Robin Seymour of the Roscommon County Board of Commissioners' Office.
Write to Simmi Aujla at simmi.aujla@wsj.com
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ATV's and Tourism
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OldGreen wrote:you can drive ATVs in Conconully, WA. . .right downtown!!!
Maybe this will spread and become the next big thing
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Danny wrote:OldGreen wrote:you can drive ATVs in Conconully, WA. . .right downtown!!!
You can drive them just about anywhere, except maybe major highways, in Montana and Idaho.
For now. The FS in Montana is getting pretty owly about it...
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-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
That won't matter in Montana. The red necks there just don't give a drop in the pool.Grumpy wrote:Danny wrote:OldGreen wrote:you can drive ATVs in Conconully, WA. . .right downtown!!!
You can drive them just about anywhere, except maybe major highways, in Montana and Idaho.
For now. The FS in Montana is getting pretty owly about it...
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They have a couple of Forest Stupidvisors up there that are pretty anti offroad. I'll see if I can find some of what I found on it...
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-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
They also have some congressional representatives in Montana that ride herd on the FS and BLM much closer than what they do here. The ranchers, etc., there keep the congressional reps on their toes, as that's what elects them. A lot different than this state where it's the big business people in the puget sound that control this state.
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Sent a copy of this to Delvin. Seems to have piqued his interest. He's having staff do some research.
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Reply from Senator Delvin on staff research:
Hi Dave,
Bills relating to ORV use and regulation have been very controversial in committee the last several years. Bills that relate to ORV enforcement, and equipment and noise standards typically raise concerns in the ORV community that riding opportunities are being reduced and overregulated. Bills that seek to expand ORV use opportunities typically raise concerns about ORV noise and natural resource damage. We’ve had a steady stream of these bills in the recent past. Senator Delvin was a member of an interim Off Road Vehicle Task Force in 2005 (copy of an agenda back then.) There was a large group of active participants both sides at each meeting. Quite interesting for sure.
However, there was a bill that passed in 2006 that was designed to increase rural ORV tourism. This bill seems to be along the same lines as the idea presented by the constituent. Rep. Kretz prime sponsored HB 2617, which allowed certain local governments to allow ORV use on roadways to connect cities with less than 3,000 in population to nearby ORV trail systems. The bill was fairly limited in scope since it applied to communities of less than 3,000 people, but the motivation seems to be similar to that in Michigan. More information about this bill, including the bill summary, is available at: http://aor.leg.wa.lcl/billsummary/defau ... &year=2005. I hope this information is helpful.
Senator Delvin and staff.
Hi Dave,
Bills relating to ORV use and regulation have been very controversial in committee the last several years. Bills that relate to ORV enforcement, and equipment and noise standards typically raise concerns in the ORV community that riding opportunities are being reduced and overregulated. Bills that seek to expand ORV use opportunities typically raise concerns about ORV noise and natural resource damage. We’ve had a steady stream of these bills in the recent past. Senator Delvin was a member of an interim Off Road Vehicle Task Force in 2005 (copy of an agenda back then.) There was a large group of active participants both sides at each meeting. Quite interesting for sure.
However, there was a bill that passed in 2006 that was designed to increase rural ORV tourism. This bill seems to be along the same lines as the idea presented by the constituent. Rep. Kretz prime sponsored HB 2617, which allowed certain local governments to allow ORV use on roadways to connect cities with less than 3,000 in population to nearby ORV trail systems. The bill was fairly limited in scope since it applied to communities of less than 3,000 people, but the motivation seems to be similar to that in Michigan. More information about this bill, including the bill summary, is available at: http://aor.leg.wa.lcl/billsummary/defau ... &year=2005. I hope this information is helpful.
Senator Delvin and staff.
Dave
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-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
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Originally Posted by Oregon80
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Referenced Agenda attachment:
OFF-ROAD VEHICLE NOISE MANAGEMENT TASK FORCE
August 10, 2005, 9 AM - noon
House Hearing Room A
Draft Agenda
9:00 AM Introductions:
• Legislative members
• Agency representatives
• Manufacturer representative
• Interested Citizens
• ORV users
9:15 AM Staff review of Senate Substitute Bill 5089 (2005).
• Richard Rodger, Senate staff.
9:20 AM Review of state laws (RCW 70.107), regulations (WAC 173) and relevant court cases.
• Jerry Thielen, Department of Ecology.
9:40 AM Example of a county ORV ordinance.
• Susan Bogni, Thurston County.
10:15 AM Issues relating to noise as a nuisance.
• Municipal Research & Services Center?
10:30 AM View citizen's video of ORV nuisance problem.
• Andrea Fontenot, citizen.
10:40 AM ORV manufacturers sound technologies.
• Pamela Amette, Motorcycle Industry Council
11:10 AM Public comment & roundtable discussion.
11:50 AM Next steps - meeting dates/tours.
Noon Meeting adjourns.
OFF-ROAD VEHICLE NOISE MANAGEMENT TASK FORCE
August 10, 2005, 9 AM - noon
House Hearing Room A
Draft Agenda
9:00 AM Introductions:
• Legislative members
• Agency representatives
• Manufacturer representative
• Interested Citizens
• ORV users
9:15 AM Staff review of Senate Substitute Bill 5089 (2005).
• Richard Rodger, Senate staff.
9:20 AM Review of state laws (RCW 70.107), regulations (WAC 173) and relevant court cases.
• Jerry Thielen, Department of Ecology.
9:40 AM Example of a county ORV ordinance.
• Susan Bogni, Thurston County.
10:15 AM Issues relating to noise as a nuisance.
• Municipal Research & Services Center?
10:30 AM View citizen's video of ORV nuisance problem.
• Andrea Fontenot, citizen.
10:40 AM ORV manufacturers sound technologies.
• Pamela Amette, Motorcycle Industry Council
11:10 AM Public comment & roundtable discussion.
11:50 AM Next steps - meeting dates/tours.
Noon Meeting adjourns.
Dave
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
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