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Cabela's

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:05 pm
by Grumpy
Picked up on NWW this morning that thes folks are supporting Trout Unlimited, who is sueing the USFS to have the Tellico OHV area back east closed to us off road types. Pretty sure that does away with any business I may have given them...Rank them right down there with REI. I sent them a note telling them I was less than impressed.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:35 pm
by Roman
Crap, are all the good stores going this way! :evil:

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:03 pm
by Grumpy
It's the PC thing for corporate Amerika to do, dontcha know :evil:



No, that ain't a typo.

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:23 am
by iaccocca
Not to cause any hate or discontent (I know that is Daves job :lol: ), but

I'm surprised to hear this about Trout Unlimited. In the past they have worked with Jeep clubs to clean up Tellico. http://www.sfwda.org/trails/tellico/cleanup20060311/index.html.
I think it is important that we do not lump all environmental groups together and certainly not the businesses that support them. REI is supporting enviro- groups that would have no motorized vehicles off road. So, REI loses my business. I do not think the same can be said for Trout Unlimited or Cabelas.
That being said, I am not familiar with the suit for closing Tellico. In the interest of full disclosure I will let you know that I am enough of a customer of Cabelas that they send me two hardbound catalogs every year. And, whereas I am not a member of TU, I am a flyfisherman, albeit not a very good one.
Off my soapbox now (and I did not trip this time.)

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:32 am
by Grumpy
Lemme go back to find that post and make sure what I'm babbling about. I'm not interested in fomenting any controversy if there is none :)

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:49 am
by iaccocca
Please don't make me stop shopping at Cabela's. ::please

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:56 am
by Grumpy
Lee, as I am just a bit more than tech inept, I sent two e-mails to Jose to put in this thread that may explain what's going on...

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:40 am
by Roman
Companies that support Greenies!!! - NW-Wheelers Forums‏
http://www.nw-wheelers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23581

Trout Unlimited - Conserving coldwater fisheries
http://www.tu.org/site/c.kkLRJ7MSKtH/b. ... ontent_id={FC67B829-F2C1-4855-AC01-4050ADDED6E3}&notoc=1
(Can't get this link to work so here's the text)

December 19, 2007


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

Contact:

Michael “Squeakâ€

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:58 am
by Grumpy
Thank you, sir :!: Hope this clears things up some. Did for me...

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:35 am
by SPR
“Agency studies show that streams within the Tellico area receive 500 to 1,000 times more sediment than similar streams just outside the trail system.


This quote is a typical bullshit approach to sway the reader. It gives you no idea how much sediment is entering the streams. Maybe the streams outside of the trail system receive virtually no sediment during the non specified unit of time.

On the flip side, the Tellico Off-road films suggest that those folks really like to mud it up.

I suspect that the interested groups will find compromises similar to what has been done in the Wenatchee National forest.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:39 am
by OldGreen
Definately Steve's area of expertise.

from what I have seen of Tellico, the erosion is really amazing. I don't think that TU or Cabelas is trying to abolish wheeling like the Sierra Club and REI. . .they are just trying to focus in on their interest. . .fish. . .makes sense to me. I hope that they can figure out a way to work it out for everyone. The best thing that the wheelers in that neck of the woods can do is cooperate and volunteer their time to make sure everything works out.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:46 am
by Grumpy
I agree...