air up

[Dale]

suggestions on whats best for airing up. Not happy with my little portable compressor, and would like to get something that airs them up quick. I have looked into the CO2 tank option. If this is the way to go what is the cheapest way to get a tank and all the other stuff to set it up. I have seen the whole set up for around 225.00 online shipped. any help would be appreciated. thanks

[Lurch]

I went with co2 for a couple reasons. The biggest one is I had a free supply of bottles and co2 at the time. The second is portability. I take it with me when I take the rail out or just around the house when an air hose doesn't reach. The down size is you have to have it filled. It isn't an endless supply of air like a typical on board air system. But it does have instant air pressure which is nice for reseating tires when you loose a bead.

[White trash]

I have Co2 and its nice for most things it'd drain a bottle just airing up my tires once.

I have all the stuff to put a york on the yota I just haven't gotten that far yet.

[tobyw]

I am up in the air (no pun intended ) on this for the JK as well... I have had several York systems over the years, including the Rubi that your dad now has, and love everything about them EXCEPT having to shell out the $$ for a new system every time I switch rigs. And let's be honest, that happens a lot... That said, had I invested in even a top of the line Powertank unit years ago, I would be literally hundreds of dollars ahead at this point. SO, that is the way I am leaning right now, given my propensity for vehicular swappage

However, if I were in your shoes and you don't plan on dumping your Rubi for a while, I would pull up next to your dad's, take some careful measurements, fab a similar mounting bracket, buy the proper belt, find a York 210, and be done with it!

[Dale]

thanks for the info guys i appreciate it.

[Roman]

Dale, did your TJ come with factory A/C? If not it's super easy to bolt on a sanden pump, pressure switch and a few fittings. If it did come with A/C you could always go the way of the JAFO, and hack your A/C lines in favor of OBA!


No kidding, he REALLY did it!

[tobyw]

And his wife is SO proud

[Dale]

I have a/c but way to big of a baby in the heat to ditch it. i saw a 210 york online that came out of a TJ current bid is 57.00 what is a good price to get one of these for?

[tobyw]

You can usually find working York 210's for anywhere from $5 to $50, but 99% of them have a v-groove pulley. Obviously you'll need a serpentine pulley (6-goove, IIRC), and they can be had for about $80 new. So if that one already has the serp pulley, it's a good deal as long as it is functional... The other option would be to find a dual pulley, one that has both serp and v-groove, and then just run a v-groove York. I've seen that done as well, the downside is that is puts a lot of stress on the dual pulley accessory, typically the alternator.

[79chevy39.5's]

i have a buddy that runs a very large c02 tank (think fullsize) its nice and all but for big tires i wouldnt be very happy havin to fill up much....i got my york for free off a guy for very tlittle work

Imo (very very humble one)i say york it and forget it

[Dromero]

10lb CO2 refill is ~$12 at OxArc. I like CO2, engine doesn't need to be running to operate.

[Doc Casey]

I've been juggling different options for air also. One that a local shop mentioned was an ARB multipurpose unit. It has a main higher pressure outlet to plumb to a tank on the rig, and also two 8psi outlets to run front and rear lockers. It's an electric unit and not engine mounted. I'm wonderig if anybody has ever run this set up, or seen it on a rig. I would like to find out more about how well it actually works than just what somebody behind a counter tells me out of a manual.

[White trash]

Uhhh arb's run on 90+ psi not 8..

I wouldn't trust an arb compressor to air up tires for too long, it will die an early death they just aren't designed to do that kind of duty.

[Doc Casey]

lol Like I said. Looking for more information on it then some guy working a counter. ARB's site really doesn't offer much about it either unfortunately. Still running the stock Rubi lockers for now and at some point would like to upgrade to an ARB locked set up. Whatever the PSI, the compresser has three outlets, two at pressures to operate the lockers, and one higher to run an onboard air tank system with internal controls to wire to the switch in the cab for the lockers. ARB's model number is CKMA12 if that helps. Two birds with one stone sounds good on paper, I'd just like to find out something more tangible than paper.

[SPR]

FWIW, I have been using my ARB pump to air tires and suck since 1999. Granted, my tires are 33"...

Recently, the ARB bump has been popping 20Am fuses every once and awhile during the tire inflation. I ran some Teflon spray into the ARB intake and that has made noticeable difference in the pumps heat billed up.

I think an ARB pump used in 10- min bursts through out the day could be used to charge an air tank with out much problem. Long pump durations produce a lot of heat for the pump. I suspect the heat is what kills pumps.

[commando14]

I've been using my ARB pump for about 10 years or so.. can be a little slow airing up 35"s but it still works. Also I got one of those little $60 harbor freight electric pumps and it's slightly faster than the ARB.. got the $10 3 year warranty on it, 2 1/2 years later it died.. took it back in and for another $10 they gave me a new one and another 3 year warranty.. the new one seems to be better built and pumps faster.

[Wrench]

I want to see someone come up with and air pump that uses hydraulic drive, by tapping into the power steering pump lines. That would be a fairly easy install with tons of applications and possibilities.

[White trash]

I want to see someone come up with and air pump that uses hydraulic drive, by tapping into the power steering pump lines. That would be a fairly easy install with tons of applications and possibilities.

You think WAY too hard about things.... A york 210 works really well or better yet get a york off an old mopar with twin LARGE cylinders and you'll be able to run air tools with no tank. I use my steering for full hydraulic steering and most of the people I wheel with have hydro assist so we need to use the pump for steering not airing up our tires.

[Beep Beep]

On my XJ I use the stock AC pump.

[Wrench]

I want to see someone come up with and air pump that uses hydraulic drive, by tapping into the power steering pump lines. That would be a fairly easy install with tons of applications and possibilities.

You think WAY too hard about things.... A york 210 works really well or better yet get a york off an old mopar with twin LARGE cylinders and you'll be able to run air tools with no tank. I use my steering for full hydraulic steering and most of the people I wheel with have hydro assist so we need to use the pump for steering not airing up our tires.

Who drives/steers while airing up?? Now THAT is TALENT!!

I was just thinking of something with easy install and smaller/lighter that can be turned OFF when not in use so there is no parasitic drag on the engine when not in use.

...and I spent nearly 10 years as an aircraft hydraulic tech for the Air Force. I just tried putting ideas together...

[Dale]

going with the source air tank, I am getting the 15lb tank, hose, regulator, steel incab caring rack, two styles of large handels to hold it for 250.00 thanks for all the input.

[tenikiwon2]

FWIW, I have been using my ARB pump to air tires and suck since 1999. Granted, my tires are 33"...

Recently, the ARB bump has been popping 20Am fuses every once and awhile during the tire inflation. I ran some Teflon spray into the ARB intake and that has made noticeable difference in the pumps heat billed up.

I think an ARB pump used in 10- min bursts through out the day could be used to charge an air tank with out much problem. Long pump durations produce a lot of heat for the pump. I suspect the heat is what kills pumps.

Do you have the "BIG" ARB compressor? I ponied up the money and on 33x12.5s it takes about a minute per 10psi (I think)
I've only had mine for a year and only used it about a dozen times. My plan is to find areas to put air... TANKS in order to have a decent reserve. personally I don't mind waiting to air up but the compressor does to HOTT by the time I air up.