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Looking for some new tires and other non associated B.S.

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:43 pm
by SPR
I'm think'en the Screaming Toylet needs bigger tires -- Something in the 35 -37 range. I've been surfing the web for the discount tire outlets and coming up short. A set of 37/12.50/15 MTRs would be good, but I have also been looking for a set of 35/12.50/15 Coopers and similiar tires. It would be very nice to be able to run a 200 miles+ on road trip and not get the $h!t vibrated out of the driver and truck.

Any good advice on what tire to run and where to buy it?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:51 pm
by iaccocca
If you are not daily driving it I love the hell out of my Dick Cepek Mud Terrains. On pavement they do not beat you up and behave pretty much like an all terrain. They squat well when you let out a bit of air. They are soft, and the tread wears evenly, but quickly on pavement. I've had mixed results, but in snow they sometimes out performed bigger tires (sometimes not :oops: )
If you are interested I will try to dig up who I bought them from new on eBay; I got a steal.
(Sounds like you have got beenrunningwiththebiggertireguysinthesnowitis. I feel your pain.)

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:25 pm
by Grumpy
I like my MT/R's. Can be a mite noisy, depending on road surface, but ride good, and seem to help the big critter get around okay. Wearing well, too. Mine are the old style.

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:10 pm
by oddball
I think you should stick with what you have and just stay on the porch. I hear the all season tires with the walnut chips in them are the bomb for around town in light snow.

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:27 pm
by commando14
I really like my MTZ's... they seem to work well in both the snow and trails.. Usually run 3-4 psi in the snow and was down to 2-3 today, haven't lost a bead yet. I bought them on a ebay just a few years back for $800 shipped to my door, but I just did some looking and it looks like that price is long gone.

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:23 am
by Lurch
I really like my mtr's. They are the old style though. Haven't heard much on the new style yet.

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:08 am
by Dale
hard to beat mt/r tires in my opinon. I run my goodyears on the road all the time and have had good luck with them offroad as well.

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:16 am
by iaccocca
oddball wrote:I think you should stick with what you have and just stay on the porch. I hear the all season tires with the walnut chips in them are the bomb for around town in light snow.


This guy is just mean. I hope you do not have to see him at holidays. (But, those walnut tires work great.)

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:22 am
by tobyw
oddball wrote:I think you should stick with what you have and just stay on the porch. I hear the all season tires with the walnut chips in them are the bomb for around town in light snow.


:mdr :mdr

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:26 am
by Grumpy
Brotherly love at it's best :twisted:

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:37 am
by iaccocca
So Toby, how'd the minvan do? Can you recommend the Kia if I go that way? (If I do, you'll have to fashion the front bumper for my Sedona.)

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:20 am
by tobyw
In the grand scheme of things, I could not be happier...

I had the wife, both kids, and gear/food for all above in addition to a large Rubbermaid tote full of tools and recovery equipment. We had room to spare, and were all extremely comfortable - including the DVD player for the kids. We set the cruise at 70mph and battled the head winds to Union Gap, where the wind just went away... Met up with the group at Roy's place, aired down, and hit the trail. I will admit I was pretty conservative at first, running 5 or 6 in the pack and letting those in front provide a nice path. Once we were up on top, we all traded places a few times and eventually I was breaking trail. About 250 yards into that program, I blew a front axle shaft :oops: No biggie, I've got some experience in that arena :roll: so with a little help from David I had the axle pulled and sawed the damaged u-joint ears down to size to eliminate any further binding. We made our way down the hill in 2wd, aired up at the Tampico fire station, and set the cruise at 70mph for the trip home. 8)

I'm not at all disappointed or upset about the axle shaft, it was just a matter of time with the 37's. I'm tickled pink with how well it drove getting there, loaded for bear and bucking a headwind, and how well it did in low-range. I've got some learning to do regarding how to drive it with the electronic gizmo's and doo-dads that are supposed to be helpful, but that will come. I won't say it's the most capable rig I've ever had, but at this point I can pretty safely say it is the most Swiss Army Knife-like vehicle that I've ever had 8)

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:31 am
by iaccocca
Cool! What's in store for the front axle? Chrom-molies or a larger axle all together or spares? Yeah, 37s is pushing it for the front axle. Is the rear a D44 or is there plans for that too.
I'm glad you are happy with it. My LJ (TJ) is never going away, even if it gets company (not soon.) So it is good to have other club members that drive it to the trail head, wheel it, and hopefully, drive it home.
(Is that front axle under warrant?)

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:59 am
by tobyw
This is the first time I have ever not had a tow rig. Even back in high school and with the flattie, I towed with my Ford Ranger(s) :lol: Obviously having a tow rig has it's merits, but I have to say, this was kind of a nice deal... Not to mention only burning about 13 gallons of fuel for the day (my F-350 would burn 13 gallons before we got to Proccer :lol: :lol: :oops: ).

As for the plans, I will get chromo's for the front. It was always on the list, just figured I would wait to pull the trigger until necessary. Well, now it's necessary :lol: With the wheeling I plan to do with this thing, I don't forsee too many issues once those are in place. The rear D44 should be fine as-is. But, as well all know, the best laid plans...

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:17 am
by iaccocca
If you think you can get the front axle warranteed, I'll go with you to Lithia. I used to work for them, so that will all but guarentee they will deny your warantee. But at least they will deny it based on your choice of associates, not based on your choice of tire size.

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:57 am
by tobyw
LOL - I am quite certain they would tell me to pound sand rolling in on 37's with a busted front axleshaft.

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:02 pm
by iaccocca
Yeah, the first time something mechanical came up that would be covered under my powertrain warranty my deductible was higher that the cost of parts and sweat.
(Of course I did get a whole new soft top and back window just because I had a bad zipper.)

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:24 pm
by Lurch
Just put stock tires on it and give it a try. :lol:

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:28 pm
by iaccocca
Oh I'd give it a try. They get 40% over cost of parts plus labor. A service writer might write it up and just hand you the part for the broken one. Or they will just laugh you out of the shop.

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:31 pm
by White trash
Isn't the JustKidding bolt pattern the same 5 on 5 as the wheeels OG put on the WJ? There's some small rubbers to roll in on... :wink:

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:32 pm
by tobyw
Those would be my stock rubbers :lol:

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:42 pm
by iaccocca
And here I have been so proud of myself for not making the JustKidding reference.

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:56 pm
by White trash
iaccocca wrote:And here I have been so proud of myself for not making the JustKidding reference.




No worries Lee you have dana 44's... JUST KIDDING you have 44 ring and pinion on 30 and 35 tubes and outters... :lol:



Toby I thought there was something amiss in my thinking so it sounded familiar... :lol:

Re: Looking for some new tires

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:13 pm
by Wrench
Screaming Toylet wrote:I'm think'en the Screaming Toylet needs bigger tires -- Something in the 35 -37 range. I've been surfing the web for the discount tire outlets and coming up short. A set of 37/12.50/15 MTRs would be good, but I have also been looking for a set of 35/12.50/15 Coopers and similiar tires. It would be very nice to be able to run a 200 miles+ on road trip and not get the $h!t vibrated out of the driver and truck.

Any good advice on what tire to run and where to buy it?


You might want to check out the Hercules Trail Digger M/T. Perfection Tire in Pasco sells them, and they gave me a pretty reasonable quote on a set of 31's.

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:22 pm
by OldGreen
If you are getting 35s or bigger: MT/Rs
If you are getting smaller tires than that. . .anything gnarly. I like the Toyos, but but they are heavy.

If you are going to raise your center of gravity, make sure to bring your big boy pants to the trail!! It can get mighty tippy!!