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8 killed, others injured in SB racing accident
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 11:45 pm
by iaccocca
Some reports say one dead others eight, not clear which is correct.
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?secti ... id=7610843
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:10 am
by OldGreen
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:42 am
by iaccocca
OldGreen wrote:My thoughts and prayers go out to the families of those killed and the racers for the horrible burden that they will carry for the rest of their lives.
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:28 am
by Grumpy
Just makes my heart hurt so much...

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:28 pm
by iaccocca
I do not have the time to investigate this charity, I am just throwing this out there because I think more than a few of us feel touched by this tragedy.
http://bowermedia.com/2010/08/fast-aid-opens-specific-account-for-mdr-california-200-accident/
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:56 pm
by OldGreen
I know the people behind Fast-Aid. It is top notch. It is endorsed by Racers for Christ/Rock Crawlers for Christ Chappy Steve. . .so it must be top notch.
One of the highlights of every race is having a prayer with chappy in the front seat of the truck. . .a prayer that this very thing doesn't happen.
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:14 am
by Grumpy
The pot gets stirred some more. What a read
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... s-say.html
Freakin' LA paper..
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:44 am
by OldGreen
Please forgive me, but that article is absolutely spot on save the "destroying the ecosystem" crack.
Those people were too stupid and/or ignorant to stand back from the track. Therefore, they should stay home OR be forced into spectator areas that are confined and patrolled like they are in Parker.
Those of us in the pits or on the track are actually SAFER than these spectators were because we are in a controlled environment.
It is funny, my life insurance application asked if I planned on being entered in any automobile races. It didn't ask if I was going to attend one as a spectator. . .or check my IQ as it pertains to standing next to deadly machinery.
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:58 am
by Grumpy
I guess my issue is the tone of the headline as much as anything. And some of the comments that follow...
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:22 am
by OldGreen
Totally agree with that. That's the whole problem here: The CBD and Sierra Club actually have a VALID argument. As a community, it is important that the only arguments that they have sound completely crackpot. . ..
A couple of clips that sum this up. Watch this one at 1:20:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r55o9DX2EMg&feature=related
and most importantly, watch this one from 3:40. . .or back a little further if you want background:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r55o9DX2EMg&feature=related
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:18 pm
by OldGreen
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:03 am
by Grumpy
Horrendous, but not a reason to shut land down! This would be over reacting at it's worst. This sport is 50 years old, has an overall good record, and generates much income for the area. I believe the factors here need to be looked at, and addressed in logical fashion, without much tearing of hair and kneeding of hands. One good place to start would be to look at how Best In The Desert has handled safety for their races, and adapt it to the conditions in the Mohave. Please don't just shut things down out of hand. This would be a diservice to all, including those involved in this tragic event. Don't let closure be the legacy here, but instead improve racing and the relationship with stakeholders to honor the memory of those we lost.
Dave Walters
Offroader