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Oregon Dunes In Danger...Again

Postby Grumpy » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:35 am

This one's personal!! This is where I grew up and learned to wheel in my Dad's rigs. Please go the site and sign the petition!!


http://www.thepetitionsite.com/3/stop-t ... g/?refid=0
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-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby Grumpy » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:52 pm

17 views here, and I don't see any names on the petition I recognize :( There a folks from all over the country signing this. C'mon gang, pitch in and help :!:
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-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby White trash » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:26 pm

Done. I signed that one and the next one that popped up was a whale sanctuary petition... :lol:

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Postby Sveta » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:54 pm

DONE

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Postby TJDave » Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:11 pm

Done for the Dunes.

Pass on the Whale sanctuary. :D
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Postby Grumpy » Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:31 am

Thanks guys 8)
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-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby Grumpy » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:03 am

And something from the "others":


RESCUE THE OREGON DUNES


The Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area (ODNRA) is federal land managed by the Siuslaw National Forest. 31,500 acres of this unique and remarkable area was congressionally protected in 1972. 86% of that, 27,000 acres, is protected as inventoried roadless areas.

The Oregon Dunes NRA occupies a strip of coastline approximately 40 miles long and averaging 11⁄2 miles wide between Coos Bay and Florence. The community of Winchester near Reedsport is in the middle of the Dunes.

The 1995 management plan for the Dunes says the Oregon Dunes are “a rare and beautiful place. The uniqueness and variety of this extensive system of dunes, streams, freshwater lakes, wetlands, and coastal forests on the shores of the Pacific ocean, make it a world-class attractionâ€
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Originally Posted by Oregon80

-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby Lurch » Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:13 am

signed 8)
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Postby iaccocca » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:03 am

Done and done.
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Postby OldGreen » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:18 am

sizzingeded. 8)

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Postby Grumpy » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:56 pm

Well now, seems BRC has picked up on this! Don Amador is paying a visit in August. Anyone up for a sand run :wink:
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-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby Grumpy » Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:24 pm

Thursday, July 7, 2011
Algore Roadless Chief Behind Closure Agenda at Oregon Dunes?


Being all to aware of the historic loss of motorized access to ocean beaches in California, HQ has been particularly troubled by a similar loss of beach and dune access at the Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area (NRA).


For the last two years BRC member, Jody Phillips, has been part of a dune working group (there were other OHVers there too). As part of that group, he has championed well-managed and continued motorized dune-based recreation on the unit.

Unfortunately, it appears the NRA is going to continue down the path of more closures (and poor management) if OHV users don’t stand up and fight back.

In June 2011, the Forest Service issued a Notice of Intent that started a public comment period for a proposed action related to OHV recreation. The comment period ends July 25, 2011.

FS NOI/Proposed Action
http://www.fs.fed.us/nepa/fs-usda-pop.p ... ject=34220

Jody and a number of other OHV recreationists have contacted HQ and the BRC about reviewing the proposal and helping craft comments and take other actions to protect OHV recreation at the Dunes.

Although HQ and BRC are still in the process of reviewing the documents, HQ took some time to review the ongoing and tragic loss of motorized access to the NRA. Here is what I have found.

In 1972, about 28K acres of the 32K acre ODNRA was open for OHV/motorized use. In 1979, that was reduced to 15K acres. In 1994, that was reduced to less than 6K acres for open riding. Even though the FS states there are an additional 4,500 acres open for motorized use on designated trails, the actual land footprint for the few miles of trails is less than a couple of acres.

The staggering loss of access, which was most notably realized in the 1994 Dunes Management Plan, caused HQ to see what Forest Service Supervisor presided over, crafted, and authorized that loss. It was not really surprising for HQ to find that it was, Jim Furnish, one of Algore’s chief architects behind the now infamous (circa 1997-2001) Clinton/Dombeck/Algore Roadless Plan. Today, Furnish is a board member of one of the most anti motorized trail/road groups in the country.


2004 Article on Jim Furnish and his anti-access agenda
http://www.ourforests.org/press/pr04-10-19.html

Furnish at 2010 Wildlands Center for the Prevention of Roads Board Meeting
http://www.wildlandscpr.org/staff

If we stay on this track, I strongly believe that motorized use on the ODNRA will cease to exist in any substantive manner. I hope our collective effort is not too late.

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-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby Lurch » Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:16 pm

Grumpy wrote:Well now, seems BRC has picked up on this! Don Amador is paying a visit in August. Anyone up for a sand run :wink:


Oooh sand run to the coast? :woot:
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Postby Grumpy » Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:59 pm

And not just any sand...The sand I learned to drive on :mrgreen: Boxcar, Teacup, No Name, Razorback, V-8, Bullrun... :bgrn:




If you can still get to some of them :?
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Originally Posted by Oregon80

-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby Grumpy » Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:29 pm

Amador will be down there second week of August...
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-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby Lurch » Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:12 am

Thought I heard boxcar was closed but I may be wrong.
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Postby Grumpy » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:20 am

Boxcar is where Sandfest is every year...
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-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby Grumpy » Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:58 am

Look close at the pix on the page in this link! The damn dunes have shrunk because of management practices out there. No vehicles to keep the sand stirred up, and suddenly when you look, where'd the dunes go...



http://www.savetheridersdunes.com/
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-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby mattawajeep » Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:49 pm

Signed this last week, just didn't post it here.

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Postby Grumpy » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:36 am

Just heard from Don Amador that BRC will have a national alert out on this the first of the week 8)
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-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby Grumpy » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:44 am

Would sure like to see a few more names I recognize on this petition! Get after it, guys!

Have mentioned the Juniper RMP to a couple of these folks, and they are ready to back us if push comes to shove...
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Originally Posted by Oregon80

-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby Grumpy » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:51 am

Gotta do it! Unless something out of line happens, I am planning a trip down to observe the fun while BRC is in the dunes. Will leave Aug. 12th, and come back on the 15th. There will be a meeting among those involved in Hauser the afternoon of the 13th, then a full day in the south end the 14th. Jerry Ingersoll from USFS will along that day. May have to bite my tongue a bit.
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Originally Posted by Oregon80

-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby Grumpy » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:56 am

Comment period extended to Sept. 1st. Seems they're getting some comments :wink:
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Originally Posted by Oregon80

-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby Grumpy » Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:44 am

Signing rate seems to have slowed :? Still need more names on that petition :!:
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-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby Danny » Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:24 pm

Well, I signed it but it looks like it's just a drop in the bucket with 5000 signatures to go.
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