Oregon Dunes In Danger...Again
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Oregon Dunes In Danger...Again
This one's personal!! This is where I grew up and learned to wheel in my Dad's rigs. Please go the site and sign the petition!!
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/3/stop-t ... g/?refid=0
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/3/stop-t ... g/?refid=0
Dave
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
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17 views here, and I don't see any names on the petition I recognize There a folks from all over the country signing this. C'mon gang, pitch in and help
Dave
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
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And something from the "others":
RESCUE THE OREGON DUNES
The Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area (ODNRA) is federal land managed by the Siuslaw National Forest. 31,500 acres of this unique and remarkable area was congressionally protected in 1972. 86% of that, 27,000 acres, is protected as inventoried roadless areas.
The Oregon Dunes NRA occupies a strip of coastline approximately 40 miles long and averaging 11⁄2 miles wide between Coos Bay and Florence. The community of Winchester near Reedsport is in the middle of the Dunes.
The 1995 management plan for the Dunes says the Oregon Dunes are “a rare and beautiful place. The uniqueness and variety of this extensive system of dunes, streams, freshwater lakes, wetlands, and coastal forests on the shores of the Pacific ocean, make it a world-class attractionâ€
RESCUE THE OREGON DUNES
The Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area (ODNRA) is federal land managed by the Siuslaw National Forest. 31,500 acres of this unique and remarkable area was congressionally protected in 1972. 86% of that, 27,000 acres, is protected as inventoried roadless areas.
The Oregon Dunes NRA occupies a strip of coastline approximately 40 miles long and averaging 11⁄2 miles wide between Coos Bay and Florence. The community of Winchester near Reedsport is in the middle of the Dunes.
The 1995 management plan for the Dunes says the Oregon Dunes are “a rare and beautiful place. The uniqueness and variety of this extensive system of dunes, streams, freshwater lakes, wetlands, and coastal forests on the shores of the Pacific ocean, make it a world-class attractionâ€
Dave
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
- Grumpy
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Well now, seems BRC has picked up on this! Don Amador is paying a visit in August. Anyone up for a sand run
Dave
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
- Grumpy
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Thursday, July 7, 2011
Algore Roadless Chief Behind Closure Agenda at Oregon Dunes?
Being all to aware of the historic loss of motorized access to ocean beaches in California, HQ has been particularly troubled by a similar loss of beach and dune access at the Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area (NRA).
For the last two years BRC member, Jody Phillips, has been part of a dune working group (there were other OHVers there too). As part of that group, he has championed well-managed and continued motorized dune-based recreation on the unit.
Unfortunately, it appears the NRA is going to continue down the path of more closures (and poor management) if OHV users don’t stand up and fight back.
In June 2011, the Forest Service issued a Notice of Intent that started a public comment period for a proposed action related to OHV recreation. The comment period ends July 25, 2011.
FS NOI/Proposed Action
http://www.fs.fed.us/nepa/fs-usda-pop.p ... ject=34220
Jody and a number of other OHV recreationists have contacted HQ and the BRC about reviewing the proposal and helping craft comments and take other actions to protect OHV recreation at the Dunes.
Although HQ and BRC are still in the process of reviewing the documents, HQ took some time to review the ongoing and tragic loss of motorized access to the NRA. Here is what I have found.
In 1972, about 28K acres of the 32K acre ODNRA was open for OHV/motorized use. In 1979, that was reduced to 15K acres. In 1994, that was reduced to less than 6K acres for open riding. Even though the FS states there are an additional 4,500 acres open for motorized use on designated trails, the actual land footprint for the few miles of trails is less than a couple of acres.
The staggering loss of access, which was most notably realized in the 1994 Dunes Management Plan, caused HQ to see what Forest Service Supervisor presided over, crafted, and authorized that loss. It was not really surprising for HQ to find that it was, Jim Furnish, one of Algore’s chief architects behind the now infamous (circa 1997-2001) Clinton/Dombeck/Algore Roadless Plan. Today, Furnish is a board member of one of the most anti motorized trail/road groups in the country.
2004 Article on Jim Furnish and his anti-access agenda
http://www.ourforests.org/press/pr04-10-19.html
Furnish at 2010 Wildlands Center for the Prevention of Roads Board Meeting
http://www.wildlandscpr.org/staff
If we stay on this track, I strongly believe that motorized use on the ODNRA will cease to exist in any substantive manner. I hope our collective effort is not too late.
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Posted by Don Amador at 2:38 PM
Algore Roadless Chief Behind Closure Agenda at Oregon Dunes?
Being all to aware of the historic loss of motorized access to ocean beaches in California, HQ has been particularly troubled by a similar loss of beach and dune access at the Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area (NRA).
For the last two years BRC member, Jody Phillips, has been part of a dune working group (there were other OHVers there too). As part of that group, he has championed well-managed and continued motorized dune-based recreation on the unit.
Unfortunately, it appears the NRA is going to continue down the path of more closures (and poor management) if OHV users don’t stand up and fight back.
In June 2011, the Forest Service issued a Notice of Intent that started a public comment period for a proposed action related to OHV recreation. The comment period ends July 25, 2011.
FS NOI/Proposed Action
http://www.fs.fed.us/nepa/fs-usda-pop.p ... ject=34220
Jody and a number of other OHV recreationists have contacted HQ and the BRC about reviewing the proposal and helping craft comments and take other actions to protect OHV recreation at the Dunes.
Although HQ and BRC are still in the process of reviewing the documents, HQ took some time to review the ongoing and tragic loss of motorized access to the NRA. Here is what I have found.
In 1972, about 28K acres of the 32K acre ODNRA was open for OHV/motorized use. In 1979, that was reduced to 15K acres. In 1994, that was reduced to less than 6K acres for open riding. Even though the FS states there are an additional 4,500 acres open for motorized use on designated trails, the actual land footprint for the few miles of trails is less than a couple of acres.
The staggering loss of access, which was most notably realized in the 1994 Dunes Management Plan, caused HQ to see what Forest Service Supervisor presided over, crafted, and authorized that loss. It was not really surprising for HQ to find that it was, Jim Furnish, one of Algore’s chief architects behind the now infamous (circa 1997-2001) Clinton/Dombeck/Algore Roadless Plan. Today, Furnish is a board member of one of the most anti motorized trail/road groups in the country.
2004 Article on Jim Furnish and his anti-access agenda
http://www.ourforests.org/press/pr04-10-19.html
Furnish at 2010 Wildlands Center for the Prevention of Roads Board Meeting
http://www.wildlandscpr.org/staff
If we stay on this track, I strongly believe that motorized use on the ODNRA will cease to exist in any substantive manner. I hope our collective effort is not too late.
# # #
Posted by Don Amador at 2:38 PM
Dave
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
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And not just any sand...The sand I learned to drive on Boxcar, Teacup, No Name, Razorback, V-8, Bullrun...
If you can still get to some of them
If you can still get to some of them
Dave
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
- Grumpy
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Look close at the pix on the page in this link! The damn dunes have shrunk because of management practices out there. No vehicles to keep the sand stirred up, and suddenly when you look, where'd the dunes go...
http://www.savetheridersdunes.com/
http://www.savetheridersdunes.com/
Dave
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
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Just heard from Don Amador that BRC will have a national alert out on this the first of the week
Dave
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
- Grumpy
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Would sure like to see a few more names I recognize on this petition! Get after it, guys!
Have mentioned the Juniper RMP to a couple of these folks, and they are ready to back us if push comes to shove...
Have mentioned the Juniper RMP to a couple of these folks, and they are ready to back us if push comes to shove...
Dave
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
- Grumpy
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Gotta do it! Unless something out of line happens, I am planning a trip down to observe the fun while BRC is in the dunes. Will leave Aug. 12th, and come back on the 15th. There will be a meeting among those involved in Hauser the afternoon of the 13th, then a full day in the south end the 14th. Jerry Ingersoll from USFS will along that day. May have to bite my tongue a bit.
Dave
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
- Grumpy
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Comment period extended to Sept. 1st. Seems they're getting some comments
Dave
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
- Grumpy
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Signing rate seems to have slowed Still need more names on that petition
Dave
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
Have Scout, will wheel...Someday...Maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregon80
-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.
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