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Postby Grumpy » Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:47 am

My e-mails have been sent...







Urgent Legislative Alert

Washington State Reintroduces Bill to Implement Vehicle Scrappage Program

A bill (H.B. 2059) has been reintroduced in the Washington State Legislature that would implement a vehicle scrappage program for passenger vehicles more than 15-years old that are not emissions-compliant. Under the bill, qualifying vehicles would have to be registered for a 24-month period and be in satisfactory operating condition. Replacement vehicles purchased under the plan would be required to have an EPA highway gasoline mileage rating of at least 30 mpg. Participants in the program would be granted a sales tax exemption for the first $2,000 of tax paid on the purchase price. ALL trade-in vehicles would be destroyed, regardless of their historical value or collector interest. If this effort is successful, hobbyists could be denied the availability of vintage cars and parts for restoration projects.

We Urge You to Contact Members of the Washington House Finance Committee (List Below) Immediately to Request Their Opposition to H.B. 2059

H.B. 2059 represents an attempt by Washington State lawmakers to dust off a tired, flawed and ineffective scrappage proposal.
H.B. 2059 ignores the fact that all scrappage programs hold the potential for enthusiasts to lose a valuable source of rare parts for vehicle restoration projects.
H.B. 2059 is unfair to the low-income vehicle owners, many of whom depend on the low-cost transportation that older cars provide and on parts available from older cars in order to maintain their own vehicles.
H.B. 2059 ignores the fact that scrappage programs are difficult to police and subject to fraud.
H.B. 2059 ignores studies that show that most cars scrapped are infrequently or never used second or third vehicles.
H.B. 2059 ignores the fact that older cars are rarely driven, generally well-maintained and not a good or cost-effective source of emissions reductions.
H.B. 2059 will do little to improve air quality which is directly connected to overall basic vehicle maintenance.
H.B. 2059's focus on the fuel mileage of newly purchased vehicles will likely result in increased sales of foreign nameplates and not domestic brands.
Please contact members of the Washington House Finance Committee by phone, fax or e-mail to urge their opposition to H.B. 2059.

Please e-mail a copy of your letter to Steve McDonald at stevem@sema.org. Thank you for your assistance.



Washington State House Committee on Finance

Representative Ross Hunter – Chair
Phone: 360/786-7936
Email: hunter.ross@leg.wa.gov

Representative Bob Hasegawa
Phone: 360/786-7862
Email: hasegawa.bob@leg.wa.gov

Representative Ed Orcutt
Phone: 360/786-7812
Email: orcutt.ed@leg.wa.gov

Representative Kevin Parker
Phone: 360/786-7922
Email: parker.kevin@leg.wa.gov

Representative Cary Condotta
Phone: 360/786-7954
Email: condotta.cary@leg.wa.gov

Representative Steve Conway
Phone: 360/786-7906
Email: conway.steve@leg.wa.gov

Representative Mark Ericks
Phone: 360/786-7900
Email: ericks.mark@leg.wa.gov

Representative Sharon Tomiko Santos
Phone: 360/786-7944
Email: santos.sharontomiko@leg.wa.gov

Representative Larry Springer
Phone: 360/786-7822
Email: springer.larry@leg.wa.gov








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Quote:
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-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.
-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby SPR » Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:35 pm

Dave, Did you read the Bill? Maybe I missed something. :?

HB 2059 - DIGEST
Provides a sales and use tax exemption on the purchase of
certain motor vehicles that reduce air pollution.
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Postby Grumpy » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:53 pm

Got part way thru it. Klippert told me it's a bad number, and he's looking into it! Thanks, Steve.

Edit: Also gave SEMA a heads up there may be some bad info floating around...
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Originally Posted by Oregon80

-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby Grumpy » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:42 am

Last year's bill number! Hope SEMA isn't going off half cocked...
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oregon80

-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby Grumpy » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:59 am

Okay, while stumbling around the web, I discovered that this has been, by resolution, reintroduced this year! Looks like the number may be good. And our local rep, Larry Haler, is a co-sponsor. He'll be hearing from me directly! I think I've got Klippert on our side, and Delvin's crew is looking for a Senate version. Need this to go away...
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Originally Posted by Oregon80

-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby Dromero » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:18 am

What's Haler's Email? I could look it up but I'm lazy.......
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Postby Grumpy » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:51 am

Don't have it off the top of my head yet. Will advise later...
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oregon80

-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby Grumpy » Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:11 am

H-4000.1 _____________________________________________
HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION 4406
_____________________________________________
State of Washington 61st Legislature 2010 Regular Session
By Representatives Kessler, Kretz, and Kirby
Prefiled 01/04/10. Read first time 01/11/10.
1 WHEREAS, Bills, joint resolutions, joint memorials, and concurrent
2 resolutions introduced at the 2009 regular session of the Sixty-first
3 Legislature may require that they be considered at the 2010 regular
4 session of the Sixty-first Legislature; and
5 WHEREAS, The public interest requires that the business of the 2010
6 regular session of the Sixty-first Legislature be considered and acted
7 upon as efficiently and expeditiously as possible;
8 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, By the House of Representatives,
9 the Senate concurring, That all bills, joint resolutions, joint
10 memorials, and concurrent resolutions introduced in the 2009 regular
11 session of the Sixty-first Legislature are reintroduced in the house in
12 which they originated and will retain the same number and be given the
13 legislative status that they held in the original house as shown by the
14 official House and Senate dockets upon the adjournment SINE DIE of the
15 2009 regular session.
--- END ---
p. 1 HCR 4406
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oregon80

-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby Grumpy » Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:46 am

I understand that this has raised it's ugly head again via a House Resolution. I wish to go on record as being very much against this bill, and it's provision for destroying autos traded. This could take a lot of valuable old cars out of the loop, and affect how I, as a car hobbyist and avid off roader, am able to keep vehicles going or restore the vehicles I am working on! I will be watching this, and would hope that you may reconsider your involvement with this proposed legislation.

Regards,

Dave Walters
Kennewick, WA
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oregon80

-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby Grumpy » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:31 pm

Dave,

Thank you for contacting me about HB2059, good news the bill died in committee.

Larry Haler
State Representative 8th District

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Office: (360) 786-7986
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oregon80

-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby iaccocca » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:45 pm

Grumpy wrote:good news the bill died in committee.

Larry Haler
State Representative 8th District



Help me out... was this the bill he was sponsoring?
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Postby Grumpy » Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:43 am

iaccocca wrote:
Grumpy wrote:good news the bill died in committee.

Larry Haler
State Representative 8th District



Help me out... was this the bill he was sponsoring?



Yup. Interesting how it's "good news" now. I have no feel yet for Mr. Haler's stand on things, but will be working on it.
Dave

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oregon80

-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby bobracing » Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:25 am

when Haler was a in Richland, he didn't see a tax he didn't like.
really didn't like he got moved to Olympia.

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Postby Grumpy » Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:36 am

Interesting....Tell me more in a PM.
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oregon80

-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.

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Postby Grumpy » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:43 pm

URGENT LEGISLATIVE ALERT



Washington State Scraps Scrappage . . . Again!



The SEMA Action Network again helped turn back legislation (H.B. 2059) in the Washington State Legislature that would have implemented a vehicle scrappage program for passenger vehicles more than 15-years old. Given the outcry of SAN members, the House Finance Committee chose not to consider the bill before the cut-off deadline. Under the bill, qualifying vehicles would have had to be registered for a 24-month period and in satisfactory operating condition. Replacement vehicles purchased under the plan would have been required to have an EPA highway gasoline mileage rating of at least 30 mpg. Participants in the program were to be granted a sales tax exemption for the first $2,000 of tax paid on the purchase price. All trade-in vehicles would have been destroyed, regardless of their historical value or collector interest.



Thank you and congratulations to all who participated in this effort!
Dave

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oregon80

-By driving a Scout, you my friend have recycled, which is more than those pansy Prius owners can say.

-I love driving a piece of history that was nearly lost.


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