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Postby iaccocca » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:48 pm

...I'd just figure it was your superior driving skills.
Okay, we're a little crazy to have a Duramax for a daily driver. But if we go off our meds, we might wind up in a Prius.
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Postby OldGreen » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:14 pm

I just want it to APPEAR that way. . .in reality, I'll be eating a taco with one hand, drinking a soda with the other and adjusting the stereo with the other. . .
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Postby OldGreen » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:15 pm

Lee, not to hijack myownthread. . .but what does your Jeep weigh?
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Postby iaccocca » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:46 pm

OldGreen wrote:Lee, not to hijack myownthread. . .but what does your Jeep weigh?


A lot. Been awhile since I weighed it, but GVWR is 4750 lb... that is with hardtop and doors, but I imagine with the winch, lock box and stuff it weights that with the soft top.
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Postby iaccocca » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:55 pm

Okay, I just dug up real numbers... it is 4460 lb with doors and hard top with my butt out of the seat. That is how it sat when I did the lift etc. 3 years ago.
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Postby OldGreen » Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:44 am

I'm going to run mine across the scales, but I think it is around 3300 with a full tank of gas. The new tires/wheels are lighter than the stockers. . .
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Postby Danny » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:54 am

Ahhh, now we're getting down to what its bout!
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Postby Wrench » Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:33 pm

OldGreen wrote:I'm going to run mine across the scales, but I think it is around 3300 with a full tank of gas. The new tires/wheels are lighter than the stockers. . .


I ran mine across the scale we had set up at the Tractor Pull at the Fairgrounds last year. 3500 with me in it, and I weigh close to 200. I think your number is very close, maybe just a tad low.
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Postby OldGreen » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:19 pm

Yeah, I figured it was pretty close.
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Postby OldGreen » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:49 pm

And now, I have a better approach angle, more tire clearance, and I have added a mystery traction enhancer. . .

Or did I just discover it? Either way. . .
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Postby OldGreen » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:42 pm

Transfer Case is wounded. Not busted, but wounded. Pops really, really bad under a load. Needs a new one. . .

That and some other non-mods will follow.

It still cleaned Aardvark in the mud. . . :shock:
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Postby Wrench » Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:31 pm

Dont know if it will help, but I have a 241 'case you can rob parts from if you want.
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Postby White trash » Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:40 pm

Wrench wrote:Dont know if it will help, but I have a 241 'case you can rob parts from if you want.


Depending on application that is a great swap. Factory wide chain and 6 planetary gears vs 231's 3. The input sun gear is held in the planetary unit by a single internal snapring so swapping it is a breeze.
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Postby OldGreen » Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:04 pm

Trashy.. .can you tell me more about this and how the swap works or point me at the interwebz write-up dejour?
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Postby White trash » Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:10 pm

No writeup that I'm aware of I just know what works. They are basically the same case overall but the 241 is the supersized version to have a higher weight/torque capacity for the full sized market. The case is thicker, the chain upgraded along with the planetaries etc. The only variable I can think of that may cause an issue is factory clocking pattern. The yokes etc are all easily sourced in the aftermarket if needed.
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Postby OldGreen » Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:56 am

So, is it better to use the whole 241 case or should I consider swapping the guts? I have a clocking ring so that isn't an issue. . .
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Postby OldGreen » Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:31 am

I got all excited there for a minute. . .

Thinking that I'm going to just source a 231 and change it out.

Reason: I just don't need the 241 swap with my little 31s and stock axles.
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Postby Wrench » Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:31 pm

This would not have been an easy "swap" anyway. It is from a Chevy, so the bolt pattern (5), input shaft diameter, and clocking are different. I just figured that if your chain was bad, you could swap those and get a beefier chain setup. Not sure, but I think the chain setups and planetary's are interchangeable.
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Postby OldGreen » Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:39 pm

Wellllll. . .hmmmmm. . .

Lemme do some searching. Mick is looking at a new case for me too.
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Postby OldGreen » Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:34 pm

Popcorn doesn't pop anymore.

What a mess that was. . . :wink:
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Postby SquirrelCrusher » Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:01 pm

So everything worked out for the transfer case swap? Good deal
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Postby OldGreen » Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:12 am

No, not at all.

1996 has a completely different mainshaft than a 1993. Guts had to be swapped. Found some interesting things. Made it all work.

Thanks toby for. . uh. . .yeah.
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Postby SquirrelCrusher » Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:14 am

Oh sucky deal. Glad you got it all figured out at least.
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To many atvs and dirt bikes

For Sale '96 F-250 Powerstroke - 4in lift, 35's, Dana 60 Front end, Tuner
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Postby OldGreen » Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:23 am

Yeah, it worked out in the end. :lol:
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Postby White trash » Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:12 am

Huh, that's odd. I used a 96 231 as a crawl box behind a 93xj Aw4 with zero issues.
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