Putting a Rubicon NV241 Tcase into a regular TJ?

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Putting a Rubicon NV241 Tcase into a regular TJ?

Postby Lud » Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:30 pm

So with the locker problems fixed, (finally) anyone know the differences between the Rubicon Tcase and the NP231 found in the TJ's?

I was thinking a 4:1 and a slip yoke for my TJ but I'm seeing Rubicon Tcases going on EBAY for under a grand now. These already have a 4:1 and no slip yoke, and are much stronger than the NP231s anyway.

I have a feeling I'll have to change driveshafts (at least put a CV in the rear) or maybe find a combo u joint to run, but other than that I have no idea what it would take. I guess the rubicon T cases have electronic pickup for the speedo while my 04's is actually gear driven.

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Postby tobyw » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:57 am

It will drop right in, but you'll need that new rear driveshaft. I happen to have one somewhere, but with your lift you'll want a CV anyways so it won't be of much use to you either. I believe there may be a slight difference in the electrical connector for the 4wd indicator in the dash, but certainly nothing a little solder and heat shrink can't fix. The Rubi case has some extra ribbing for reinforcement that might require a little love with the BFH on the tub or you're skid, but again certainly doable. I would say it would be money better spent than upgrading the 231.
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driveshaft

Postby Dale » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:15 am

this is the one that I have if your looking for a driveshaft.

http://www.4xshaft.com/rubicon_cv.html

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Postby Lud » Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:50 am

Got some research done. Note:Its a direct bolt in for 03+ Wranglers. 02 and Earlier TJ's require a little playing with the transmission mount and some cutting. This is definitely doable on mine. Found a good writeup on putting one in an XJ too.

Got a list of what I need besides the transfer case:

1) I can get 32 splined front yoke (w/oil slinger) for 1310 ujoints and reuse the front driveshaft. About 90 bucks from Tom Woods Driveshafts.

2) I'll need to get a CV driveshaft as the stock one will not work.

3) To get the 4wd indicator working: Dura last #SW4492 at Auto Zone for $38.99. Its a switch for an Chevy S10.
Also the pigtail part to go with it: AC DELCO part #PT724. These two things make it plug and play.

4) Hoping to go with the Rubicon transfer case linkage or modify my NP231's linkage.

5) For the speed sensor I have two choices. Either a Rubcion speed sensor or a speed sensor out of a 98-00 Wrangler that was also electronic. I'll have to tap into the stock wiring at the T case.

Stay tuned....
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Postby White trash » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:41 pm

I have a 32 spline 1310 cv yoke off of a 242 you can have for the low low price of free. No shipping. :lol:

Oh and I think I still have a electronic speedo sender sitting here too... Damned dirty Jeep parts are cluttering up my shop! :lol:

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Postby Lud » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:38 pm

I'll definitely take em off your hands if you want to get rid of them. Found a Rubi Case on Ebay with the linkage for 925. I've seen them a little lower I may keep looking.

I was gonna convert my NP231 to a 4:1 and put an SYE on it but do that and you're up to $1500 and the NV241 is a lot stronger as they use it behind the V8 dodge trucks.

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Postby White trash » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:48 pm

241 has more ribbing and 6 planetaries rather than 3 like a 231. the big upgrade on a 241R is it has a HUGE set of planetaries compared to even a standard 241.


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Postby Lud » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:31 pm

I might just stop by either this evening or tomorrow evening then.

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Postby White trash » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:52 pm

I've gotta run to bentucky to work on the linkage for the 4 speed in my moms 56 customline tonight but peanut will be here. Otherwise I'll be here tomorrow for sure.

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Postby Lud » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:44 pm

Thanks Trash, thats two things out of 5 things I needed.

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Postby White trash » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:38 pm

I was thinking about it and I may have the correct switches you need too... Go figure what is worthless to me saves you time and cash, who knew? :lol:

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Postby Jafo » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:28 pm

You sure your NOT building a jeep, trashy.... :lol:
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Postby White trash » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:51 pm

Jafo wrote:You sure your NOT building a jeep, trashy.... :lol:



If I wasn't so set on using the first gen body I'd build a flatty stretched waaaaay out... :lol:

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Postby iaccocca » Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:33 am

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Postby Lud » Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:02 pm

Thats a good question, I'll find out.

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Postby oddball » Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:50 pm

I just put a SYE and a cv driveline into my 03 np231 from Tom Woods at a final cost of $535 by the time all was said and done but hey they threw in a couple of stickers.

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Postby Lud » Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:48 pm

Thats the initial route I was going to go, but I'd like to get 4:1 gears in the case. Parts alone for 4:1 into an NP231 cost too much IMO

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Postby White trash » Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:49 pm

Lud wrote:Thats the initial route I was going to go, but I'd like to get 4:1 gears in the case. Parts alone for 4:1 into an NP231 cost too much IMO



If you don't have a SYE yet do yourself a huge favor and do a 231/300 doubler. No too low or too high of a ratio as with a 4:1 or lower gear set. You can choose either 2.62:1, 2.72:1 or 7.13:1... :D


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